Understanding Cockney Rhyming Slang

by Gordon 22. January 2010 09:46

Mike from the US writes with an interesting question:

"I'm an American. I have a Master's Degree. I speak 2 other languages besides English and I still have to watch Guy Ritchie and some other English movies with subtitles.

Do people who use the Cockney rhyming slang all use the same celebrities' names? Otherwise, do they have to stop and think about what's being rhymed with what? Or do they all use the same rhyme for a particular word?

That's what I don't quite get. Baffled.

-Mike"

We say:

The use of celebrities names for Cockney Rhyming Slang is relavtively recent - only in the last twenty/thirty years have celebrities names come to dominate. So now we get Britney Spears instead of Apples and Pears. This trend is probably developing in tandem with our celebrity obsessed culture.

Rhyming slang must be the same for both the speaker and the listener. You can't just "make it up". In our dictionary we allow ratings to sort the wheat from the chaff and identify the rhyming slang that is most widely used and the slang that is restricted to very small groups.

One example is "Pete Tong" for "Wrong". This is very widely understood - in London and South England anyway. Nearly everybody will understand this to mean "wrong".

Yes in general all speakers will use the same rhyming slang for the same word. So for example everybody will use Loaf to mean "head". However, some words have many rhyming slang alternatives, and most people will be aware of the alternatives. An example being slang for "hand" which currently has 7 alternatives, most of which are well known.

It's complicated Mike! Come and visit us in London and see for yourself Laughing. And don't forget those movies don't really reflect real life - they are highly exaggerated.

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More on Cockney numbers

by Gordon 10. January 2010 10:02

BlimeyStrewth writes:


1/2 - Lamb (and calf)

1 - Lost (and won)

2 - Bottle (of glue)

3 - Holy (see)

4 - Stand (in awe)

5 - Scuba (dive)

6 - Fiddle (-sticks)

7 - Exeter (in devon)

8 - Fartoo (late; another explanation is that "far" is supposed to be "four" and "too" is supposed to be two - four times two is eight. But I believe it's rather the first explanation)

9 - Coal (mine)

10 - Foxes (den)

11 - Hell (and heaven)

12 - Deep (delve)

13 - Hurt (and be mean)

14 - (Sortin) letters

15-19 - ?

20 - Mussels (aplenty)

21-29 - ?

30 - Herdy

40 - Gory

50 - Nifty

60 - Styx tea (??)

70 - Heaven Tea (??)

80 - Baity

90 - God (almighty)

100 - Milou (and tintin; or tenten, i.e. ten times ten) 1000 - (louse and) flee

 

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Help needed: obscure Cockney phrases

by Gordon 10. January 2010 09:50

Richard writes:

"My mum used the phrases: HOW'S YOUR BELLY OFF OF SPOTS" and "HOW'S YOUR MOTHER OFF OF DRIPPING"?"

What do these phrases mean?

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Cockney nicknames

by Gordon 10. January 2010 09:49

Roberta writes:

"This is a great dictionary and web site !

In the old days Cockneys - at least my Victorian Cockney ancestors- were all known by a nickname . My great uncles for example were known as Speck ,Missel and Banger . I was dubbed Topsy by my grandfather when I was born, and he always used it. I was told this was to protect Cockneys from the Law should they be in trouble . Anyone else known by such an alias ??

Roberta ( aka Topsy !)"

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